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The Sacred Ancestor's Army vs Apokolips

Post by Sacred Ancestor on Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:13 am


Premise: The Sacred Ancestor has foreseen for some time that Apokolips was planning to invade this reality and take control over earth. He has since revived all of his army from the Fortress of the Elder God and placed Lawrence Valcua back in command, as the two have since repaired relations since Tyrant's Star's. They have decided to invade Apokolips and destroy it.

1. Lawrence Valcua and the army to invade Apokolips Darkseid isn't involved.

2. Lawrence Valcua and the army to invade Apokolips Darkseid is involved.

3. Lawrence Valcua along with his forces from Tyrant's stars joins with the army to invade Apokolips Darkseid is involved.

4. Sacred Ancestor and Lawrence Valcua along with his forces from Tyrant's stars joins with the army to invade Apokolips Darkseid is involved.

5.Sacred Ancestor and Lawrence Valcua along with his forces from Tyrant's stars joins with the army to invade Apokolips Darkseid is involved along with the gl core.
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Post by Beyonder on Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:02 am

I cant even decide on this battle for alot of reasons.....because both Darkseid and Sacred Ancestors are powerful individuals its the fact Darkseid at full power is able to attack full planets with his hands and only powerful Sacred Ancestor is with the book......very nice.....
Round 1: Stalemate
Round 2: The Apokolips Army
Round 3: Sacred Ancestor Army
Round 4: Sacred Ancestor Army
Round 5: The Apokolips Army
Round 1 I stated stalemate only because darkseid son is pretty powerful and has Durability and immunity and much more but adding Darkseid for round 2 is a stomp because of Omega Beams.
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Post by Sacred Ancestor on Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:07 am

lol well Valcua has blood spheres don't forget, that block all attacks. The foe must figure out he has to sacrifice his life force to dispel it. If he puts those up after Darkseid attacks some of the soldiers before him and the assassins that could kill the elder god have a chance against Darkseid. Especially the Voodoo one who just makes a doll of Darseid and bites ignoring durability.

Also don't forget the Ghost Noble soldiers which can't be attacked physically in round 1, and they have dimensional BFR cannons
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Post by Beyonder on Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:17 am

I mean if this is True Darkseid and not his avatars then its a clear stomp in all rounds lol specially if sacred ancestor gets the book.
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Post by Sacred Ancestor on Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:24 am

lol there's alot to consider, It would be a great fight.
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Post by Beyonder on Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:03 am

A long battle lol Darkseid omega beams are the true problem.
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Post by Sacred Ancestor on Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:13 pm

lol kinda, the army has so many options with that though, the have force fields, valcua's blood spheres, dimensional barriers that shunt it into another dimension, not to mention loads of prep and intell from the Sacred Ancestor's intell, they wouldn't be walking in blind and would have loads of strategies against it.

Apokolips may have some intell gathered on the earth in general but no intell on his army would be available to them or him would be available.
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Post by Beyonder on Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:55 am

I mean The Omega Beams have some serious power able to cause time travel and complete evaporation and planet level destruction darkseid true form would just crush the earth literally.
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Post by Sacred Ancestor on Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:18 am


True but the Army has miniaturization manipulation too, don't for get the bigbang accellerator/mysterious symphony movement of destruction which impedes the flow of time if used on an area if they want. The three assassins have attacks that ignore durability, and have a range as far as they need it to be not to mention can percieve his true form despite where he is.
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Post by Beyonder on Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:24 am

Lol can they survive space if Darkseid busts the planet?
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Post by Sacred Ancestor on Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:48 am

Lol well !. normal vampires suffocate temporarily until they are picked up in a space ship.

2. Most of the Sacred Ancestors Army is immune to being suffocated such as Ghost Nobles, who are functionally actual ghosts, which can fly on their own, and don't need to breathe.

3. they wouldn't be attacking only from the surface, they have billions of space ships and have fought across the universe with the OSB.

4. They preemptively attack Apokolips so it would take place there, if he tried to destroy earth the Sacred ancestor, or Valcua could just erase that even from happening later.
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Post by Beyonder on Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:09 am

So alien vampire ghosts vs supernatural military aliens?

1. Good point I forgot the ghosts lol.
2. I believe Darkseid has a near Planet size ship also of was it his planet that was a ship? K need to read more darkseid comics.
3. That's if they have the book.....and if it wasn't true form Darkseid.
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Post by Sacred Ancestor on Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:13 am

1. Yea

2. Matters more to his forces, i know they can fly but ships make a difference if they have the attack power speed, range, durability etc. higher than the troops and attacking force. Don't forget Valcua's particle beam cannon that can blast bust planets 3 times the size of earth in one shot and has an infinite amount of shots in there. The army also has the Sacred Ancestor's tech which is more powerful than Valcua's, available on their ships.

3. I see it as tit for tat. If he uses his true form they use the record to destroy him or negate him. The sacred Ancestor also has access to Valcua Two and other forms of himself when ever he wants that could watch from the record or he can foresee even outside the record and predict attacks like the Ancient Daylhis did in Tyrant's stars.
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Post by Beyonder on Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:44 am

1. I'll look to see if they can touch being on another plane.
2. I believe darkseid can handle a blast added with his Omega Beams but its determine of how you use it overall I believe Vampire Hunter gets the win if the book is allowed.
3. But is the book allowed in this death battle? I know Darkseid true form isnt.
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Post by Sacred Ancestor on Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:34 am

1. yea basically the ghost nobles should be intangible to them. Not sure how darkseid's blasts affect ghosts either though. If he is thinking of them as molecular manipulation, throwing through time, or a physical blast it should do nothing since they aren't affected by things like that. The erasing might do something but again the Nobles are aware of the ability to do that from General Gaskell don't forget with erasure. Darksied's would be more powerful but as far as type they are aware of it and the shield they have should have protection from that kind of assault too.

2. lol yea apokolips wouldn't though should take it out if he wanted to. Darksied would be blind sided by it firing the first time probably.

3.No restrictions. It just what both would use in character as far as restrictions.
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Post by Beyonder on Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:19 am

Damn lol then if they have the book they solo its no debate that the book is Universe level.
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Post by Sacred Ancestor on Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:19 am

Yea I added more info on the wiki to it too. It has dominion over all creation and there are multiple mentions of there being other universes, so its multiversal/omni as well.
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Post by Beyonder on Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:57 pm

Omni? nah.....Dverse isn't a omniverse sadly like DC/Marvel having other fictions in the series multiverse could be right also.
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Post by Sacred Ancestor on Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:24 am

Oh ok was using the more generic meaning of omni being the prime universe of the other universes in existence that we know of.

It was about to be on the road to omni with American Wasteland though.
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Post by Beyonder on Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:06 am

Ah I get it now lol but that term would make people be like.....
"How does this series have a omniverse?" Lol.
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