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Did Naruto surpass DragonBall Z

Post by LogicWall on Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:33 am

The topic in this thread is about Naruto being above the likes of DragonBall part II.

Well when one compares feats both have their own impressive feats, like Buu destroying the planet and Madara mind controlling the whole planet.

However many are under the impression that Dbz would stomp Naruto simply because most of the characters can destroy the planet. Naruto in the last chapters well to be more specific in the War arc became above the Dbz in terms of power.

Perfect Susanoo
With Madara's Perfect Susanoo being the embodiment of destruction with his blade containing the power to destroy all things in the universe. His statement is valid simply because there's an explanation behind it which his Perfect Susanoo being the embodiment/incarnation of destruction. Even Kishi said his Susanoo is the destruction god.

This is no different from Kid Buu possessing the power to blow up the earth 10x over. Kid Buu destroyed the planet but his power was 10x times that. Madara smashed a meteor and the shock wave sliced off two mountain tops.  Another example would be Eternity(Marvel) using a full powered blasts and yet it only destroyed a planet and if you didn't know Eternity is Universe level. Or Ban Mido being stronger than his dad who is multiversal but is performing street level feats. Well looks can be deceiving which is why that is not accurate way to determine and judge how powerful a characters that is why statements are somewhat important or else we wouldn't how dense King Kai's planet is.

The Truth Seeking Orbs & Juubi
The Truth Seeking Orbs are basically the embodiment of all creation/universe and contain every nature.

Here's a link that covers some of what black orbs can do.
Spoiler:
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Null_Energy_Manipulation

"Truthseeker Orbs is listed as just a ninjutsu (not kekkei mora), used by Madara, Obito, and Naruto. It says that when an individual manifests (literally "blossoms" 開花) Six Paths Senjutsu, black orbs comprising the power of all five elements and yin-yang appear, forming a circle that floats behind them. They can manipulate each orb independantly. Each orb is about the size of a fist and hides within enough power to completely oblitrate a forest. With the power of everything in the universe, put simply, the shape of the black orbs can be freely altered, and the many natures comprising them can be combined to manifest a variety of effects. It is a power that easily exceeds both kekkei genkai and kekkei tota." -MASASHI KISHIMOTO

The user of the Truth Seeking Orbs are using the power of the universe which is the Juubi (Hagoromo even got his powers from the Juubi). That is what the databook is saying and the manga confirms this and vice versa.

The Juubi is natural energy
Spoiler:

Natural energy is the same as cosmic energy it exist everywhere.

Naruto kicks a Truth Seeking Orb.



"Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!"-Masashi Kishimoto

Basically Naruto's immense chakra let him kick away a black orb meaning his chakra is on par or above the power of the universe(Juubi).Which flows well with the power levels as the Juubi jinchuriki is more powerful than the Juubi too.

Using Yin and Yang release the user of the black orbs can nullify attacks and powers like regeneration, inextinguishable black flames, etc.

[SPOLIER][/SPOILER]

They pretty much ignore durability seeing as they erase anything they touch and how space and time were irrelevant as they were capable of harming the Limbo.

It's not a chakra only power as it erases a kunai
Spoiler:

They are automatic and instead of turning things to dust they erase whatever they touch to nothing.

Spoiler:

Natural Energy

Natural energy is the energy that is everywhere it comes from Nature/Universe

In outer space.Naruto goes Sage Mode on the Moon.
Spoiler:

Kurama gathers all the natural energy.

Spoiler:

Kaguya's Multiverse

Kaguya teleported Team 7 across various realities/universes




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Re: Did Naruto surpass DragonBall Z

Post by Beyonder on Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:51 am

Agreed.
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Re: Did Naruto surpass DragonBall Z

Post by LogicWall on Thu May 14, 2015 3:27 am

[quote="A.I.M."]No, the day that happens is the day that zero gets divided.
BTW there is a new Dragon Ball series coming out named Dragon Ball Super. And since Naruto is over while DBZ is still going on, Naruto will never surpass DBZ, ever.[/quote
No offense but you are completely wrong the existence of Kamui just sh*ts on pretty much every attack and defense in Dragon Ball Z

I updated my thread so there's new info
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Re: Did Naruto surpass DragonBall Z

Post by Beyonder on Thu May 14, 2015 7:32 pm

Naruto isnt really over the new series Naruto Gaiden aka Baruto just started.
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